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Flow of ideas / Gedankenflug / Les Pensées

gedankenflug

DUDEN: "hochfliegende (geistreiche und fantasievolle) Gedankenführung oder entsprechender Gedankengang"

 

Flow of ideas, Gedankenflug, Les Pensées.

Gedankenfolge, Ideenfolge, train of thoughts, chain of thoughts

Auf dem Kopfe spielen: improvising in its broadest perspective, from ornamenting exsiting pieces to free fantasias.

Taking themes from the audience

themes from the audience

Liszt / Lettre d'un bachelier es musique / Artiste et société 1838: this way of improvising... establishes a more direct rapport between the public and the artist ...it becomes a communal work.

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5. Improvisations sur des thèmes donnés par le public, exécutée par Mr. Listz. On est prié de vouloir reméttre les thêmes écritée en musique.

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5. Improvisations on themes given by the audience, performed by Mr. Listz. We kindly ask you to provide the themes written in music.

Skillsets

skillsets

Czerny:

  • natural aptitude (lively imagination, inventive power, quick flow of thoughts, etc)

  • harmony has to become second nature

  • completely perfected technique of playing

Moscehels

  • bold fantasy

CPE Bach p326

  • a thorough understanding of harmony and acquaintance with a few rules of construction

  • natural talent

Vierling

  • study of bass progressions

  • Man muss längere Noten in kürzere verändern wissen / To know how to change the longer notes in shorter ones

Schumann: musical rules

  • Learn the basic rules of harmony early on.

  • It is certainly very pleasant for you to make up little melodies at the piano, but if they come to you on their own, not at the piano, then you can be even happier since an inner feeling for music is stirring within you. -The fingers must do what the head wants, not the other way round.

  • If you have been given a vivid imagination from above, then you will often find yourself spending solitary hours sitting at the piano as if in a trance searching for harmonies to express your inner feelings. The more mysteriously you feel yourself drawn as if into a magic circle, the more elusive seems the world of harmony. These are the happiest hours of youth. But beware of surrendering to a talent that may lead you to waste time and energy on phantoms. The mastery of form, the power of clear arrangement, can be acquired only through the fixed symbols of notation. Therefore write more, and dream less.

on ornamentationi

Hummel

duel1781 duel Mozart Clementi

1800 duel Beethoven Steibelt

1803-04 Beethoven - Vogler

duel beethoven-Gelenik?

1837 duel Liszt Thalberg

18?? Kalkbrenner Schumann

1841concert Chopin

Mendelsson

20th century

Gabriela Montero improvises with the audience (Hong Kong Debut)

Gabriela Montero improvises with the audience (Hong Kong Debut)
Gabriela Montero improvises with the audience (Hong Kong Debut)
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Gabriela Montero improvises with the audience (Hong Kong Debut)

Experience, Discipline, Fantasy: Improvisation in Classical Music and Jazz - Robert Levin
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Experience, Discipline, Fantasy: Improvisation in Classical Music and Jazz - Robert Levin

20th century